Announcing beta release

</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Announcing VoiceComputer 12.29,
the beta version of our forthcoming VC 12.30</font></span></p><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><div></div><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"></p></font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Features:</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span></font></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Voice
Mouse Canvas<o:p></o:p></font></span></b></p>

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>(aka, “Show Canvas”).
Designed for mouse intensive applications, Voice Canvas promises to bring
universal accessibility to speech recognition.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">We are working on demonstrations of this unique feature because,
as with many new features, it’ll be easier to understand how Voice Canvas works
by seeing it in action rather than by reading about it. <o:p></o:p></font></span></p>

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">If you have graphical and other mouse intensive applications, please
take <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Show Canvas” for a test run and let
us know how it works for you.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">To view the command set, say: “Show Canvas Commands.”<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>

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<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Display
Numbers command</span></b><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 7.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'>Our 'Display Numbers' command is a companion product to “Show
Canvas.” Display numbers brings you access to clickable menus and other objects
on a page. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“Show Canvas” brings you
access to everything else.</span><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 7.5pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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in our previous release.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>You’ll find
everything you need, faster than ever.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>

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“Show Start Here” and “Show Basic Commands”<o:p></o:p></font></span></b></p>

<p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman";'><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Getting started with Dragon and VoiceComputer is now easier than
ever, especially for novice computer users.</p><div></div><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><o:p></o:p></font></span></p>



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<edited><editID>RonK</editID><editDate>2013-02-26 09:20:20</editDate></edited>

Ron,


I am trying the beta and have noticed that when you say “show canvas” one unexpected, and unwelcome, effect is to change the size of an open application, as if the “restore down” button has been pressed. I am not sure if this is because the applications in question were browsers, but it has also happened once with Photoshop Elements version 11.


Several times when I said “click 1” the Windows 7 version of the hourglass appeared, and did not go away until I had switched to another application and then back again.

The text for the command “right click to delete buttons” could be improved as I mistakenly said “right click 5” a few times before I realised that I should have said “click 5” followed by “right click”.

Is the canvas saved when you close VoiceComputer?

These are just my first thoughts.

Viv

is to change the size of an open application, as if the “restore down” button has been pressed

This is a bug that occurs when you have the open application maximized. We’ll fix this soon. In the meanwhile, you can resize your application to almost full screen size, without maximizing it and then create canvas commands.
However, once you create a canvas for an application and then reopen the canvas, your application will be resized to the size it was when you created the canvas. This is intentional so that all elements within the window will be in the same location as when you created the click command.
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</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>>Several times when I said "click 1" the Windows 7
version of the hourglass appeared, and did not go away <o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>>until I had switched to another application and then back
again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

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</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>Please email me your log file.<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

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</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>>The text for the command "right click to delete buttons" could be improved</p><div> </div><div>Need to fix this in the documentation. "right click to delete buttons" is not a command, merely a description. The best way to delete a button is to say "Follow 5" (This clicks on 5 and reopens the overlay.) and then "right click." This deletes button 5.  </div><div>If you say "Right click 5", you'll get a right click on button 5.</span></div><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>>Is the canvas saved when you close VoiceComputer?<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

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</font><p style="margin: 2pt 0in;"><span style='color: black; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 9pt;'>Yes!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>This lets you create
canvases for any program. This should work great for Photoshop. Keep updating
us!<o:p></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">

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<edited><editID>RonK</editID><editDate>2013-02-27 09:07:12</editDate></edited>
Thanks.
[QUOTE] However, once you create a canvas for an application and then reopen the canvas, your application will be resized to the size it was when you created the canvas. This is intentional so that all elements within the window will be in the same location as when you created the click command. [/QUOTE]
I understand.

[QUOTE] >Several times when I said "click 1" the Windows 7 version of the hourglass appeared, and did not go away until I had switched to another application and then back again.

Please email me your log file. [/QUOTE]

I have sent you a PM with the data attached.

[QUOTE] >The text for the command "right click to delete buttons" could be improved

Need to fix this in the documentation. "right click to delete buttons" is not a command, merely a description. The best way to delete a button is to say "Follow 5" (This clicks on 5 and reopens the overlay.) and then "right click." This deletes button 5.
If you say "Right click 5", you'll get a right click on button 5. [/QUOTE]

Sorry, I was not suggesting that "right click to delete buttons" was a command. It was just my misunderstanding of what I had to do to delete the button that I was mentioning. I have decided that the simplest way to delete button is first to click it and then to right click it.

[QUOTE] >Is the canvas saved when you close VoiceComputer?

Yes! This lets you create canvases for any program. This should work great for Photoshop. Keep updating us!

[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I have just tried this.
I find that when creating a canvas for Photoshop Elements 11 it slightly increases in size hiding the labels under the buttons which were at the bottom of the PSE screen under the taskbar.

There is also another problem. I notice at the bottom right of the screen there is text showing the canvas number and, I presume, the total number of canvases, although this is partially off the right-hand side of the screen. I have mistakenly created a couple of buttons in this area and I have no way of deleting them. The delete button command does not seem to work in this area of the screen.
One minor point which I've noticed is that the background of the buttons is green and I was playing about with an image which is predominantly green. It may be useful to have a facility to change the background colour of the buttons.
I also now get a pop-up message when I close down VoiceComputer. It says
1) please answer the Dragon prompts to save your user profile
2) wait until Dragon has finished processing
3) click 'OK' to continue.

I do not remember seeing this in previous versions of VoiceComputer.
Viv
[QUOTE] >
I have sent you a PM with the data attached.
[/QUOTE]
I can't duplicate this. Does this happen only within Photoshop? - Any patterns to this that I might be able to duplicate?
[QUOTE] >
although this is partially off the right-hand side of the screen
[/QUOTE]
The size of the text on your screen must be 100% so that this feature and show numbers to will properly size their overlays.
If the text size of Windows is 100%, are you having this problem with any other applications in addition to Photoshop?
[QUOTE] >
One minor point which I've noticed is that the background of the buttons is green
[/QUOTE]
We're going to make the background smaller and change it to a blue-green. We'll see if we can let the end-user change the background color.
[QUOTE] >
I also now get a pop-up message when I close down VoiceComputer.
[/QUOTE]
This is new. It can difficult to determine whether Dragon is in the process of saving your user files or has crashed, so I'm letting the user decide but I trying to think of a more elegant solution.

Ron,


I can't duplicate this. Does this happen only within Photoshop? - Any patterns to this that I might be able to duplicate?
I am not sure, I have not played with this for very long, but I will have more time tomorrow.
[QUOTE] >The size of the text on your screen must be 100% so that this feature and show numbers to will properly size their overlays.
If the text size of Windows is 100%, are you having this problem with any other applications in addition to Photoshop? [/QUOTE]
I have checked and my Windows text size is the smallest of the options, 100%.
[QUOTE] >
One minor point which I've noticed is that the background of the buttons is green
We're going to make the background smaller and change it to a blue-green. We'll see if we can let the end-user change the background color. [/QUOTE]
Thanks, that would be helpful.
[QUOTE] >
I also now get a pop-up message when I close down VoiceComputer.
This is new. It can difficult to determine whether Dragon is in the process of saving your user files or has crashed, so I'm letting the user decide but I trying to think of a more elegant solution.
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<DIV></DIV>Thanks, if we have the option to switch it off that would be better.
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I checked in Windows Paint and buttons in the bottom right cannot be deleted if they are very close to the corner, as in this image :-</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><img src="http://www.voicecomputer.com/forum/uploads/159/Paint1.jpg" height="98" width="96" border="0" /></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This image shows the number of canvases is off the screen :-</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><img src="http://www.voicecomputer.com/forum/uploads/159/Paint2.jpg" height="190" width="172" border="0" /></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also I have found that if I inadvertently try to click on an icon in the taskbar I can create a button I do not want.  Would it be possible to limit the button creation area to that part of the screen above the task bar and below the Dragon Bar, (which I keep at the top of the screen)?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Viv</DIV>

I have been using version 12-30 which solves most of the problems of the previous version. One minor problem which is not resolved is the display at the bottom right of the screen showing how many canvases there are. This is still off my screen on both my laptop and my main computer.
As far as I can see when using the new canvas it is only possible to click the number once. Would it be possible to introduce a command such as ‘click 5 three times’?
Viv

Is the "Show Numbers" display also off your screen?
[QUOTE] > Would it be possible to introduce a command such as 'click 5 three times'? [/QUOTE]
We have an undocumented command that uses the same syntax as the drag and draw commands.
I could create a quick command that would let you say click x <1-20> times. But, there'd be very little time delay between each click. A similiar command would let you say click 5 14 23 4 and 10.

Ron,


I cannot see any problems with the Show Numbers command, all of the numbers are where I expect them.

I do not mind not seeing the effect of each click in a ‘click x <1-20> times’ command.

Sorry, I do not understand what you mean by ‘click 5 14 23 4 and 10’.

Viv

Ron,

How does one get the beta version try out? Sent you a dozen chocolate covered strawberries?

Enjoy your weekend,

Jim

Jim,


Just click on the link you would use to download the final version, you should see version 12-30. That is the version I am running.

Viv

We just reprogrammed Show Super Numbers. Will have the beta tomorrow. Hopefully this solves the problem.


[QUOTE] >I do not mind not seeing the effect of each click in a 'click x <1-20> times' command. [/QUOTE]


Please remind me to post this command after I get the next beta up.

[QUOTE] >Sorry, I do not understand what you mean by 'click 5 14 23 4 and 10'. [/QUOTE]


Super Numbers lets you click multiple buttons with one command.

Beer or wine would also work.
Beta 2 should be available tomorrow morning.

Ron,

Will you be creating either demos (hopefully) or help screens for the super numbers? I understand how to click one number, but I am not sure what you mean by clicking multiple numbers. What would be the application for that?

I would assume that you might want to click several numbers at the same time in Windows explorer to copy, move or delete them.


Viv
Yes! We'll be creating demos. It's incredibly powerful and easy to use, the demos will make that obvious.
We just released the 64 bit Silver Release (12.35) and we'll release the 32 bit Silver Release later today. To get the release, just follow the link that you were sent with your order.
If you've been using the new Super Numbers feature, you won't be able to import your old Overlays into the new release because we had to reprogram the feature.
We'll be releasing several updates in the next days and weeks as we create demonstrations and continue to improve the product.
We hope to release our Gold release (12.5) in two weeks.

Ron,


Could you add a button to the ‘Enable or Disable Voice Computer Commands’ screen to select all as it could be quicker to deselect a few options, rather than selecting the ones you want.

Viv

Ron,


I am using version 12-36-3 but I do not think that the ‘click x <1-20> times’ command is implemented yet. Will it make the final version?

Viv

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